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80% 1911 Recievers... Where 2 Buy?
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Posted: April 04 2008 at 10:38am | IP Logged Quote Inabadhood

Hello everyone...

I was thinking about finishing an 80% reciever...  Then that got me to thinking, "Where are the best places to buy?"

Then I thought - well, we should compile a list of 1911 Partially Completed Sources...  A list that denotes what companies have Cast vs Forged 80% receivers, Long versus Regular/GI length frames...

I was hoping to find an 80% Reciever with Light Rail that I could buy and finish up myself.  Happily, I found a company that makes them, but for now they're not SELLING them until the DOJ / ATF makes some 'decision' on 80% frames... 

This leads me to believe that the only other company out there that makes them are the Essex Enhanced Light Rail frames...  And if I recall correctly, they're 100% finished, aren't they???  Also, are they Cast or Forged?

What are some of your sources for these frames?

What additional work needs to be completed?

I'd be fine with drilling my own pin holes & milling (at a build party) the slide rails, but I don't think I'd have the skill, patience, or jigs/knowledge to mill out the correct angles for a mainspring housing slot & rail, etc...  What kind of reciever do you guys suggest I buy?

I'm new to this Machine Your Own Frame stuff...  I've only worked on three COMPLETED Colts, two Springfields, a Kimber, and a Sistema (and those were mostly parts fitting and/or trigger work).

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Posted: April 04 2008 at 11:22am | IP Logged Quote tr6guns

Here is one that i have used in the past for AR 15s  https://www.vbd.com/noc/shop/products_category.asp?CategoryI D=44
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Here is another  http://www.tanneryshop.com/80-1911.htm
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Posted: April 04 2008 at 11:28am | IP Logged Quote tr6guns

If you have access to a mill you could make a light rail and attach it to the dust cover yourself 
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Posted: April 04 2008 at 4:48pm | IP Logged Quote Inabadhood

Okay...  So this is what I've found thus far...

100% Frames:

DoupleStar 100% 1911-A1 GI style Frames - $99.99

Tannery Shop 100% Frames Starting @ $210

Essex Arms 100% Starting @ $135  They have a 'Light Rail' model for $225 blued, or $235 Stainless.

STI Guns - a Variety of 100% Frames/Slides, but they're Expensive!  STI used to offer 100% Frames (including a 'Tactical' model with light rail) with Fitted Slides...

80% Frames:

Tannery Shop 80% Frames Starting @ $190.75

KT Ordnance has been fighting a HARSH legal battle over their '80%' Recievers, and they're currently not selling any firearms products anymore.    Sad because they had some NICE frames!

VDB.com / AR15plus.com / National Ordnance 80% Frames - $193.50

70% Frames:

Tannery Shop 70% Frames Starting @ $189.95

60% Frames:

Tannery Shop 60% Frames Starting @ $65.95 (Blemish) or $75.95

http://www.diyguns.com/product_info.php?products_id=55">DIY Guns 60% Frames - $115

 

Considering all these things, it's starting to look as though I'd be better off getting the 100% DoubleStar GI model frame from CenterfireSystems for $99.99 or else the Essex Arms 100% Light Rail Frame for $225...  If I'm gonna spend about $200 on a 1911 frame, I'll get one that has the feature I want (rail) and build a 1911 off that rather than spending over $190 (approx.) for an 80% Frame that I'll have to machine myself (with someone else's tools).

That's okay though.  Less work for me!  Then I only have to do some 'Fitting' work! 

ETA:  BUT NO 'NATIONAL MATCH' BUSHINGS in my guns!   



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Posted: April 04 2008 at 9:32pm | IP Logged Quote Mr.BCH

Sarco had frames and slides that I bought in 2007 for a decent deal (special 10 pack pricing if I remember). 
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I bought a 1911 "compact" and and it is shorter about .25 inch. Whay can be done with it? As far as a build is concerned ?
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Posted: January 28 2009 at 3:17pm | IP Logged Quote tr6guns

All parts fit except the Mag, and Mainspring housing, and grips. Sarco had some mainspring short compact housings, Brownnells might have some stuff, and i think Midway, CDNNsports has some compact grips and Mags. Last i time checked 
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Sarco has the following:

Model 1911 standard frame castings- "Last of the lot"- $19.95 each or 3 for $54.50, 10 for $159.50. I can't tell what % they are finished... if at all.

Then they have the builders kits (W/O frames)-

1. All parts no frame or slide: $125.00, 3 for $349.50

2. No slide, frame or barrel: $110.00

3. Everything but the frame, with GI slide: $210.00 or 3 for $600.

4. Kit with commercial slide for: $215.00

I have been looking at buying or building a 1911. However, I have seen some pretty rock bottom pricing on a few models recently. I have been told that it is pretty easy to screw up a frame for the 1911.

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midmichigun wrote:

Sarco has the following:

Model 1911 standard frame castings- "Last of the lot"- $19.95 each or 3 for $54.50, 10 for $159.50. I can't tell what % they are finished... if at all.

Then they have the builders kits (W/O frames)-

1. All parts no frame or slide: $125.00, 3 for $349.50

2. No slide, frame or barrel: $110.00

3. Everything but the frame, with GI slide: $210.00 or 3 for $600.

4. Kit with commercial slide for: $215.00

I have been looking at buying or building a 1911. However, I have seen some pretty rock bottom pricing on a few models recently. I have been told that it is pretty easy to screw up a frame for the 1911.

    Those are castings no machine work done at all, but still a good buy if you have a milling machine and blueprints. And they are not that hard to machine and make work. I have built 7 so far..  
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I have Sarcos standard frame casting , and a compact . Both 80% Plus a standard size with a square trigger guard . I also bought Brownells blueprint book I own a southbend lathe and a taiwan drill press.

I also picked up a complete parts kit. Anyone interested in a build party ? I live near Detroit.

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