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Posted: August 01 2018 at 10:48am | IP Logged Quote CNCGuy

After seeing over 8 states are suing trump administration for allowing firearm 3D models online and rumor of 15 others jumping on board as well, I went to RifleConnection.com last night and downloaded all of their models, great downloads! Highly recommend checking the site out! They have everything from the basic AR stuff, 1911, Glock, and I believe Mac stuff as well!
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Posted: August 01 2018 at 11:13am | IP Logged Quote Paraquat

My state has this real a-hole senator who is saying 3d printers allow "ghost guns" (specifically AR's) to skirt TSA inspections.


So far as I know, no crimes have been committed with home made ARs.

All these people are doing is issuing a public challenge to come up with better, faster, cheaper, easier.



Our own BackBencher made a full operational rifle with off the shelf parts and about 10 minutes of hacksaw work.
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Posted: August 01 2018 at 1:43pm | IP Logged Quote backbencher

There have been some gang crimes in California using completed 80% ARs.
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Posted: August 02 2018 at 8:11am | IP Logged Quote Paraquat

I stand corrected then.

I don't listen to radio or watch TV so I only hear about the "big tragedies" like the Colorado theater and Sandy Hook.

Thanks for fixing my links.
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Posted: August 02 2018 at 9:01am | IP Logged Quote backbencher

Pleased to.  Every site has a different youtube embed procedure, and I've blocked so much of Google's crap that embeded YouTube videos don't display, so it takes a minute.
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Posted: August 03 2018 at 12:46pm | IP Logged Quote justin22885

i have to agree with paraquat.. nothing will happen to the spread of blueprints and plans.. but the left has just issued a challenge to people to come up with even easier options.. i love the way they use a 3D printed liberator gun, which at best just gets me to raise an eyebrow thinking really?.. because you can build a leinad/cobray type swing barrel derringer with a couple metal plates and some minor welding.. shape the trigger components with a dremel and heat treat them with a blow torch and last thousands of rounds through it
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Posted: August 03 2018 at 12:59pm | IP Logged Quote justin22885

also.. over the last few years of been putting together a fairly large database of 3D models ive acquired from various places online, all pretty much still available here and there.. if it came right down to it, id just organize them, convert them all to a neutral 3d CAD format, pack them into a torrent, and upload

and as far as that dudes side plate AR-15 goes.. it does seem to be a work in progress and there are some things he's going to have to work out with it still, but i see no reason it's not going to be viable and functional when it is finished.. the germans made some blowback pistols almost the exact same way as that lower.. the jaeger pistol
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Posted: August 03 2018 at 10:56pm | IP Logged Quote dcorb

Watched the latest episode of the Shooter. This will not help the acceptance of 3D printer guns:

Swagger and Isaac Johnson (Omar Epps) visit former Atlas mission planner Katherine Mayfield at Armstrong Psychiatric, where she has been lying low with Atlas’ tacit permission. Their visit upends that. As soon as they pass security, the front desk guard sends a secure message about their visit to Bama. A short time later, Jack Long comes through security with a forged ID badge and plastic gun made using a 3D printer. Mayfield tells them Hayes was going to pick a chief justice of the Supreme Court that would serve Atlas and be the swing vote for decades to come. They’re trying to convince her to come with them when Long arrives and shoots Mayfield. Swagger and Johnson run for it and narrowly escape.
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Posted: August 04 2018 at 12:04am | IP Logged Quote zicklon

The most they 'll try to stop it in America will interest more people in Europa,
and how in here we are already  aware of this (mainstream media screaming to ban them) and that the files needed are all ready available on internet (defcadV4.5.torrent) even if it's banned it's gonna get huge.

In Europa to buy a pistol you must ask the prefecture if you can buy a weapon and be a regular sportive shooter and you're limited on ammmo when they autorize you to.

So the 3D printing or all the methods to make a gun are going to interest all the survivalist in here like everywhere.

We sworn to abide and respect the law of god not the human's laws

And don't forget that the most you try to forbid something on this planed and the most it tend to happend ...
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Posted: August 05 2018 at 11:28am | IP Logged Quote justin22885

the second amendment foundation is currently fighting this i believe (of course, the NRA dont give a f**k because people making their own guns means they wouldnt buy any from their corporate donors).. so if you want to support the legal defense, check out the second amendment foundation 
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Posted: August 05 2018 at 11:59am | IP Logged Quote backbencher

justin, for all that is wrong w/ the NRA, being beholden to corporate donors is not one of them.  That's a common slur by the left, and it is foolish to repeat it.  The problem w/ the NRA is it is run by entrenched fudds who are not unwavering in support of the 2nd Amendment - Marion Hammer in Florida being a prime example.

Think of all the gun parts websites that participate in Round Up for the NRA - you think they're not interested in you building your own guns?  That's millions of dollars a year for the NRA - in "corporate sponsorship."
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Posted: August 05 2018 at 12:08pm | IP Logged Quote justin22885

they are beholden to their donors.. 7n6, dont care, when M855 is threatened to be banned for the same reasons, they fight back.. one is a thread to domestically produced firearms and ammo, the other isnt.. same with the 1968 gun control act they supported that made importations of a lot of low cost, foreign made firearms impossible

and youre going to sell millions in AR-15 parts whether youre constructing the receiver from an 80% or buying it, gun parts websites arent in any risk

i donate to SAF, theyre the only ones with the guts to defend 3D printed firearms, and the attack on 3D printed is just to go after some low hanging fruit to set precedents and slippery slopes to go after 80% and all homemade firearms, which is the goal of it all
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If you want to download the plan to print a Shuty AP 9mm
go here
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If you want to download the plan to print a Glock 17

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ive been specifically avoiding 3D printing and other technologies that arent quite there yet, and focusing on simple sheet metal construction and the most basic milling processes that can be done with a drill press.. even if they banned 80% and 3D printing entirely, we'll always have ways to make guns
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justin22885 wrote:
ive been specifically avoiding 3D printing and other technologies that arent quite there yet, and focusing on simple sheet metal construction and the most basic milling processes that can be done with a drill press.. even if they banned 80% and 3D printing entirely, we'll always have ways to make guns


Then this might interest you: http://herohog.com/images/guns/Practical_Scrap_Metal_Small_A rms/
I add to it as I find more. It's CAD and Scrap Metal designs.
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Posted: August 07 2018 at 10:36pm | IP Logged Quote backbencher

HH, most of us have followed Professor Parabellum's series pretty closely, and there's several GB of downloadable files on this site.  Just start combing through the index, and pay particular attention to posts by Sagattarii.
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HeroHog wrote:
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ive been specifically avoiding 3D printing and other technologies that arent quite there yet, and focusing on simple sheet metal construction and the most basic milling processes that can be done with a drill press.. even if they banned 80% and 3D printing entirely, we'll always have ways to make guns


Then this might interest you: http://herohog.com/images/guns/Practical_Scrap_Metal_Small_A rms/
I add to it as I find more. It's CAD and Scrap Metal designs.


definitely.. people want to piss and moan about 3D printers but people have been building these firearms.. even including fully automatic submachine guns from hardware store parts
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what do you guys believe the most important type of weapon for everyone to have is?.. a rifle, or a pistol?
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Ultimately, I would prefer the militia be equipped with something of a standard pattern rifle - 5.56x45mm, AR-based - at least AR magazine based.  Currently that is around $300 for parts kit w/ lower - almost twice what a 9x19mm HiPoint or cheap 12 ga pump runs.  But it makes the militia man effective out to 300 yds +.

Subguns are probably the most bang for the buck, hence why the Democrats effectively banned them.
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