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Posted: July 22 2017 at 8:07am | IP Logged Quote Dr.Strangelove

Hi I just recently joined and im sorry to hear about the funding problems. I just donated 20 bucks. I hope it helps. I'd love to see the store open.
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Welcome to the forum.  That's very gracious of you.  Got any Legos?
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Welcome to Weaponeer. Thanks for helping
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Hey Thanks for pitching in. Welcome, There is alot of GOOD stuff here.
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Backbencher I am considering purchasing a CETME parts kit from sarco. I always wanted a CETME but the comercial built ones are hit or miss at best. I think I can do better. I dont grind bolts and carriers to adjust head space. Lol
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Plan on swapping the trigger group for 922r. I can't find the cetme hammer, trigger, sear parts anywhere.
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Plan on swapping the trigger group for 922r. I can't find the cetme hammer, trigger, sear parts anywhere.


That's the plan. Hkparts.net has the pre made 922r fcg pack. Its expensive but gets the parts count up. I want a good shooter so I don't mind spending the money. The us triger housing would be nice too when its back in stock.
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The Century guns are down to what, $450?  Can you get all the parts that cheap?  The Century gun will probably work out of the box; if not, send it back.  If they still screw it up, you've already got most of the work done & already have all the 922r parts.
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The Century guns are down to what, $450?  Can you get all the parts that cheap?  The Century gun will probably work out of the box; if not, send it back.  If they still screw it up, you've already got most of the work done & already have all the 922r parts.

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In a lot of cases you can buy a restored car for less than the cost of restoring one your self. You don't do it for the sake of having one you do it for the challenge. I want to do it for the challenge. Its expensive though and im still pricing the over all build. If I do this it could take a year or better. Hell I might botch up and be out my money but id like to try for the fun of it. As long as it can be done legally and safely im up for the challenge. Anyone can buy a gun but you learn so much more and so many aspects of the process when you build it your self. Now explaining this to my better half is where this might stop at...
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Hey Dr. Strange or is it Dr. Love any abbreviation will do i suppose
I like your explanation i have told many people the same when i am approached about helping build an AK or an AR.
You can buy one cheeper but if you would rather know just about everything there is to know about the piece then building is the way to go.
As for the better half I got her started with building a 10/22.
We just bought it to shoot at first then she got into the idea of modding it out to make it her own.Furn. changes, sight changes, color change, etc. No matter what she decides to make it into be supportive and helpful.
My wife moved past the 10/22 years ago, although she still owns it, to owning several pistols and a couple of AKs' and a WWII era shotgun.
BE careful when you start taking her to gun shows, it generally costs me around $800 to $1000 When Mrs. Ryche goes with me.
But you know its really worth it when they support our type of addiction.
Good luck with the build
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The Century guns are down to what, $450?  Can you get all the parts that cheap?  The Century gun will probably work out of the box; if not, send it back.  If they still screw it up, you've already got most of the work done & already have all the 922r parts.


In a lot of cases you can buy a restored car for less than the cost of restoring one your self. You don't do it for the sake of having one you do it for the challenge. I want to do it for the challenge. Its expensive though and im still pricing the over all build. If I do this it could take a year or better. Hell I might botch up and be out my money but id like to try for the fun of it. As long as it can be done legally and safely im up for the challenge. Anyone can buy a gun but you learn so much more and so many aspects of the process when you build it your self. Now explaining this to my better half is where this might stop at...


I guess my point is, even if you're wanting to build one and scoff @ Century's quality, if a complete gun is cheaper than a parts kit, @ the worst you can saw it in half and re-weld it.

Back when Mosins were cheap, fellas would take two Mosin receivers, torch chop em in 2 places each, then mill and reweld into a complete pistol receiver to make a legal Obrez instead of paying the $200 SBR tax.

I know mags are cheap for the CETMEs, but the CETEME-L intrigues me.  Steel frame, takes AR mags.  Something different from the AR for a change.  And given that it's steel, relatively easily modified - to take cheap and widely available AR parts... 
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ryche wrote:
Hey Dr. Strange or is it Dr. Love any abbreviation will do i suppose
I like your explanation i have told many people the same when i am approached about helping build an AK or an AR.
You can buy one cheeper but if you would rather know just about everything there is to know about the piece then building is the way to go.
As for the better half I got her started with building a 10/22.
We just bought it to shoot at first then she got into the idea of modding it out to make it her own.Furn. changes, sight changes, color change, etc. No matter what she decides to make it into be supportive and helpful.
My wife moved past the 10/22 years ago, although she still owns it, to owning several pistols and a couple of AKs' and a WWII era shotgun.
BE careful when you start taking her to gun shows, it generally costs me around $800 to $1000 When Mrs. Ryche goes with me.
But you know its really worth it when they support our type of addiction.
Good luck with the build
Ryche


I would love to get my wife into this and I have made some head way. She was a lefty anti gun type like her mom but ive fixed that! She's now a conservative and has her own hand gun and a carry permit. That makes me very popular with her mom! I ordered a parts kit for a cetme c with her blessings yesterday from sarco. It was just over 150 with shipping. The name I picked comes from one of my favorite cold war movies. It's dorkey so it fits me lol I wish it was cheaper to do this stuff but the skills you learn are are valuable too. Im a diesel mechanic by trade but it bores me to tears.
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Backbencher I completely understand but I want to start from square one. That moisen build is quite a neat idea! Im a little late for the cheap rifles though. I paied 120 for my M44 carbine and now if you can find one its around 350 at best sometimes more. The cetme L is a neat rifle and if im secsesful building a cetme C I might just make that the next project as it uses the same jig if im not mistaken for bending the flat.
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Posted: July 25 2017 at 10:20pm | IP Logged Quote backbencher

Well, if you can get the parts kit for $150, you might be well ahead of a Century gun.  Bare Mosin actions run for less than the complete rifle, nor do you need a complete stock for an Obrez.  Nor do you need a good bbl - the bullets aren't spinning fast enough to stabilize anyway, I don't think.

Having watched Ian's video on the CETEME L on Forgotten Weapons, I figure a CETEME L build is pretty advanced.  The rifle was so crappy in Spanish service they ditched it after 10 years.  It sounds like it might benefit from a slightly longer feed ramp, thus a longer receiver, longer bolt carrier travel, etc.  No interest here in a rifle that requires modified AR mags, but if the rifle can be modified to work w/ something like Magpul Gen 3s, it would be a pretty neat little toy.  As everything's steel, reasonably easy to modify bits to put on Picatinny rails, folding AR stocks, etc.
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