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Posted: June 07 2015 at 5:35am | IP Logged Quote weaponeer

NOTICE: It's imperative that you read this article, because obama the terrible is pushing to destroy websites such as weaponeer.net, or anything found on the internet that contains any firearm related information. With Penalties for EACH violation being extremely severe and would include up to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $1 million per violation. (think about that....  under this abomination that's intended to destroy our First Amendment as well as our Second Amendment rights, an American who would post about firearms online would be subject to 20 years Prison and one million dollar fine FOR EACH POST YOU MAKE.)

It's happening again— President Obama is using his imperial pen and telephone to curb your rights and bypass Congress through executive action.

Even as news reports have been highlighting the gun control provisions of the Administration's "Unified Agenda" of regulatory objectives (see accompanying story), the Obama State Department has been quietly moving ahead with a proposal that could censor online speech related to firearms. This latest regulatory assault, published in the June 3 issue of the Federal Register, is as much an affront to the First Amendment as it is to the Second. Your action is urgently needed to ensure that online blogs, videos, and web forums devoted to the technical aspects of firearms and ammunition do not become subject to prior review by State Department bureaucrats before they can be published.

To understand the proposal and why it's so serious, some background information is necessary.

For the past several years, the Administration has been pursuing a large-scale overhaul of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), which implement the federal Arms Export Control Act (AECA). The Act regulates the movement of so-called "defense articles" and "defense services" in and out of the United States. These articles and services are enumerated in a multi-part "U.S. Munitions List," which covers everything from firearms and ammunition (and related accessories) to strategic bombers. The transnational movement of any defense article or service on the Munitions List presumptively requires a license from the State Department. Producers of such articles and services, moreover, must register with the U.S. Government and pay a hefty fee for doing so.

Also regulated under ITAR are so-called "technical data" about defense articles. These include, among other things, "detailed design, development, production or manufacturing information" about firearms or ammunition. Specific examples of technical data are blueprints, drawings, photographs, plans, instructions or documentation.

In their current form, the ITAR do not (as a rule) regulate technical data that are in what the regulations call the "public domain." Essentially, this means data "which is published and which is generally accessible or available to the public" through a variety of specified means. These include "at libraries open to the public or from which the public can obtain documents." Many have read this provision to include material that is posted on publicly available websites, since most public libraries these days make Internet access available to their patrons.

The ITAR, however, were originally promulgated in the days before the Internet. Some State Department officials now insist that anything published online in a generally-accessible location has essentially been "exported," as it would be accessible to foreign nationals both in the U.S. and overseas.

With the new proposal published on June 3, the State Department claims to be "clarifying" the rules concerning "technical data" posted online or otherwise "released" into the "public domain." To the contrary, however, the proposal would institute a massive new prior restraint on free speech. This is because all such releases would require the "authorization" of the government before they occurred. The cumbersome and time-consuming process of obtaining such authorizations, moreover, would make online communication about certain technical aspects of firearms and ammunition essentially impossible.

Penalties for violations are severe and for each violation could include up to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $1 million. Civil penalties can also be assessed. Each unauthorized "export," including to subsequent countries or foreign nationals, is also treated as a separate violation.

Gunsmiths, manufacturers, reloaders, and do-it-yourselfers could all find themselves muzzled under the rule and unable to distribute or obtain the information they rely on to conduct these activities. Prior restraints of the sort contemplated by this regulation are among the most disfavored regulations of speech under First Amendment case law.

But then, when did the U.S. Constitution ever deter Barack Obama from using whatever means are at his disposal to exert his will over the American people and suppress firearm ownership throughout the nation?

Time is of the essence! Public comment will be accepted on the proposed gag order until August 3, 2015. Comments may be submitted online at regulations.gov or via e-mail at DTCPublicComments@state.gov">DDTCPublicComments@state.gov with the subject line, ‘‘ITAR Amendment—Revisions to Definitions; Data Transmission and Storage.''

Finally, please contact your U.S. Senators and Member of Congress. Urge them to oppose the State Department's attempt to censor online speech concerning the technical aspects of firearms and ammunition. Use the "Write Your Lawmakers" feature on our website or call the Congressional Switchboard at (202) 225-3121(202) 225-3121.


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Posted: June 07 2015 at 3:43pm | IP Logged Quote OldCoot

Thanks for the heads-up.
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So the US supplied Bin Laden with his munitions and ISIS was initially funded and supplied by the UK and US to overthrow Libya and Syria then we have Fast and Furious in Mexico how many years do you think Obama the merciful will get ?
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Posted: June 08 2015 at 8:31am | IP Logged Quote Sagittarii

Still can't upload.

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Posted: June 08 2015 at 10:47am | IP Logged Quote bikergunnut

Sagittarii wrote:
So the US supplied Bin Laden with his munitions and ISIS was initially funded and supplied by the UK and US to overthrow Libya and Syria then we have Fast and Furious in Mexico how many years do you think Obama the merciful will get ?

8 years so far. Some think he will declare himself King.

I think he will cheerfully pass the crown to whoever steps out of the shaddows when Hillary gives up again. Just like last time .

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This country is full of STUPID VOTERS, they had to try a Black Man, next they will have to try a Woman, GOD HELP US if they do...
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Posted: June 09 2015 at 7:00am | IP Logged Quote weaponeer

  is this working now?


  
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Still can't upload.

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Posted: June 09 2015 at 10:02pm | IP Logged Quote molon labe

Load your mags and pack your bags!
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weaponeer wrote:
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Still can't upload.

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Nope, still not working boss.
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I hope 2016 will bring some good changes, doubt it but hopefully.
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Look, the trend of the changes is generally upward. Not only can everybody vote now, it's getting closer to everybody being able to get married, as long as they're competent and legally independent adults who are free to do so. It can't be the case that we'll get everything right, and nobody here is under the illusion that Obama throwing a tantrum would stop any of us from continuing our research; it may confine our available methods, but none of us would magically forget how to make an AK out of a shovel.

So let's oppose this. This is stupid bullsh*t, we can all agree on that. But we don't need to attack the good standing of our countrymen for their difference of opinion which is stereotypically a choice of the lesser of two evils. There's such an obvious set of circumstances that lend themselves to the corruption of all politicians, without even needing to delve into conspiracy theories- it is uncontroversial to acknowledge that America has scary enemies, and that rich people seek to influence politics, and we should be commenting on that instead of about the race of our leaders or the level of education of your fellow countrymen.

Because that's just un-American.
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Posted: June 11 2015 at 1:30am | IP Logged Quote backbencher

Well said, Choscura.
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We've tried the female solution here then found out later because politicians are protected Prime Minister Julia Gillard was a Lesbian and her so called boyfriend (Gay beard) was a well known Gay in Canberra they split as soon as she left office shows how they deceive the public that was after she ran the country into the ground.
Had a female State Premier here years ago sent the state broke took years to fix the mess left behind.
So those of you who may think give them a try forget it. There is a reason women don't lead anything and it has nothing to do with prejudice you catch on as you get older.
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"Women are smarter than you think they are but not as smart as they think they are"
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Uploads still not working

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Posted: June 11 2015 at 12:55pm | IP Logged Quote Boomtown

Contact your representative, I sure have.
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And you thought the ACLU was of no use they may not like you but will have to put in to keep their credibility up.
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NRA & ACLU have cooperated before.
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Posted: June 14 2015 at 11:02am | IP Logged Quote Choscura

Sagittarii, there's nothing wrong with being gay; but the forum exists so we can talk about guns and the issues that relate to them, including the politics of making and selling guns.

Try as I might, I can't figure out how you whining about government complicity in what somebody else does in privacy has to do with guns, especially when your position is the same about government interference in what you do in privacy.
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Trying to ban any form of knowledge is counterproductive, as the Luddite Left is liable to learn, to its dismay.
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Posted: June 15 2015 at 3:09am | IP Logged Quote Choscura

The left has been responsible for more gained freedoms than the right, and this falls under that category as well; if you want this freedom, as I think everyone here does, you must help make the case for it to them so that they not only understand that it is reasonable and enjoyable, but that it is unstoppable. Technology never goes backwards.

This is a freedom of speech issue, and not a left vs right issue- so please don't go around making enemies for this endeavor by casting it as one.
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